If you can afford a gun you can afford a safety course. To say it's geared towards the rich is silly. As a poor kid my dad still got me into hunter safety courses to get my license and approval to shoot trap and hunt with him
The reason gun control is brought up when school shootings happen instead of having paid armed security, single point of entry, reinforced perimeters etc is because other countries that have gun control don’t have any of the other things and yet they don’t have any school shootings. Can’t shoot up a school without a gun
All these problems you guys are talking about the Bidens look at the blue states look at the crime.. look at the poverty in the blue states.. y’all are so blind man it makes me so sad by the way slaves were sold by black people in Africa so we didn’t invent slaves the Spanish did. And the democrats founded the kkk. Y’all are so sad y’all don’t see how they are destroying this country to line there pocket they don’t care about you or your problems so I kinda like to see y’all suffer you guys elected this man
No offense to gun lovers, but This conversation is so stupid. I just feel that this conversation always revolves around safety, but guns don’t and never will provide that. They embolden people to enter into confrontations they would otherwise steer clear of imo. Ppl can do what they want, but I think it’s disingenuous to say that guns provide anything but harm and enjoyment to those who like to inflict it on others.
People that own guns are always afraid someone might take something from them. It's sad really. Police are not your friend. Them busting you is many times profitable for them. They harass people of color and poor people they know cannot afford lawyers.
Tbh having many guns in circulation brings more gun deaths but you can't just take away every gun. I think selling guns should just be forbidden especially everything abov a handgun and so the problem wouldn't solve itself but I would say it would be much more safer in like 10 years.
America is just outright F'd. Guns have become part of their identity and culture. Ironic considering how much they value freedom when they're chained to their guns.
It is better to die fighting than having never fight at all. Some people die never having a chance to defend themselves and they become ghosts. Forever having a reason to linger even after death. For me, at least if I die I can move on knowing I had a chance to protect my life and failed. If I had a gun
It’s strange because the answer is so clear. How to stop gun violence? Get rid of guns. A shame that the US is so deluded that they need guns. Who taught you that? Such a violent country, put guns in that mixture, this is the result.
Clearly the solution to this issue is by arming everyone, children, babies, Neo-Nazi's etc……teachers, teenagers with attitude problems, manic depressives, criminal pyschopaths, i mean what could go wrong? it is their right after all, i just believe that all of these guns should be Muskets………
A gun is a tool. Thank God there is Law Enforcement on this panel to explain how the law is enforced in the United States of America. Dysfunctional families are fertile ground for neglect, abuse, secrecy, addiction, or denial. In these family systems, children’s emotional needs go unmet because the parents’ needs take precedence. Across America, there are approximately 18.3 million children who live without a father in the home, comprising about 1 in 4 US children (Father Absence Statistics). The United States has the highest rate of children living in single-parent households of any nation in the world (Kramer, 2021). "A child that is not embraced by the village will burn it down to feel its warmth." – African Proverb
Thank you to all of the participants for a respectful discussion. Appreciate they are all gun owners / users, and it was not a discussion between pro-gun and anti-gun, but clearly these people still had very different views. Great video vice!
Even if that fatass Italian mf in the suit had a 200 round LMG, with my training and fitness level, I’d still take him out and disarm him with a pocket knife, a gun won’t keep you safe 🤣🤣
As a black person in America that witnessed aflunent gun areas like Wellington,Fl and areas like the criminal world of nyc it is the community fault the criminal are just ignorant kids who feel left out and that there is no hope for them to prosper in there community no role models nobody cares about each other here while n Florida they make sure everyone around them is doing decent and look out for each other and there almost no personal disputes and everyone has a gun there we don’t have a gun issue we have a social disconnect between each other as humans that creates monsters or trouble individuals who then said could get a gun cuz I’m telling you now anyone could get acces to a gun if they really tried even when banned also growing up there’s a disconnect with the police we feel that they’re jobs are to protect in nyc but they harass and often try to escalate situations I had a cop tell me he wouldn’t reason before turning his body camera on
European here…the USA is messed up beyond belief. Systematically, financial distribution , security and culturally.
The only way out of this mess is to leave the country…just move out dont bother with these debates. The USA will still be the same for the upcoming centuries…you cannot save this country or change anythinf. It will take every single person in this countey to solve these issues and this is not how this country's system is structured. End of discussion. bye.
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If you can afford a gun you can afford a safety course. To say it's geared towards the rich is silly. As a poor kid my dad still got me into hunter safety courses to get my license and approval to shoot trap and hunt with him
Watching this as a European who never touched a gun like 🙂😂
white supremacy/nationalism, domestic violence, and cruelty to animals are the best indicators for gun violence.
mental health, nuerodivergence, ect arent great indicators
Awesome convo, but the “global problem” comment is not true buddy, it’s an American problem for now. Good luck solving it tho 🙌.
Jesus…men are so effeminate and soft these days. Also I can totally see why that guy got shot lol😅
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This conversation is why VICE is so important. I'm sending this to everyone I can. Send this to congress and the Senate.
America is a failed experiment.
The reason gun control is brought up when school shootings happen instead of having paid armed security, single point of entry, reinforced perimeters etc is because other countries that have gun control don’t have any of the other things and yet they don’t have any school shootings. Can’t shoot up a school without a gun
Vice is very trustworthy platform with no bias ….. sikkkkkeeeeee
Broken families and fatherless homes is a big one especially black homes.
Live in Australia here. After a mass shooting we had a change in laws and haven't looked back.
So she's a trans cop Wannabe
All these problems you guys are talking about the Bidens look at the blue states look at the crime.. look at the poverty in the blue states.. y’all are so blind man it makes me so sad by the way slaves were sold by black people in Africa so we didn’t invent slaves the Spanish did. And the democrats founded the kkk. Y’all are so sad y’all don’t see how they are destroying this country to line there pocket they don’t care about you or your problems so I kinda like to see y’all suffer you guys elected this man
What is also fucked up is why are the comments turned ON on this video? While on Andrew Tate's documentary, TURNED OFF…
Honestly… There will never be a good argument for someone owning a semi-automatic weapon.
@colionnoir have you seen this?
Your videos are fake so is all your evidence tate case proved this your audios are edited same as your streams
No offense to gun lovers, but This conversation is so stupid. I just feel that this conversation always revolves around safety, but guns don’t and never will provide that. They embolden people to enter into confrontations they would otherwise steer clear of imo. Ppl can do what they want, but I think it’s disingenuous to say that guns provide anything but harm and enjoyment to those who like to inflict it on others.
People that own guns are always afraid someone might take something from them. It's sad really. Police are not your friend. Them busting you is many times profitable for them. They harass people of color and poor people they know cannot afford lawyers.
Tbh having many guns in circulation brings more gun deaths but you can't just take away every gun. I think selling guns should just be forbidden especially everything abov a handgun and so the problem wouldn't solve itself but I would say it would be much more safer in like 10 years.
#Vice I wished you had ask this question
Why do school shootings seem to cycle with election years?
Americans are so strange. You might even say stupid and violent, if you are being uncharitable.
The regulation of the mind is where this starts and ends…there aren’t enough laws that could ever be written to do that.
America is just outright F'd. Guns have become part of their identity and culture. Ironic considering how much they value freedom when they're chained to their guns.
It is better to die fighting than having never fight at all. Some people die never having a chance to defend themselves and they become ghosts. Forever having a reason to linger even after death. For me, at least if I die I can move on knowing I had a chance to protect my life and failed. If I had a gun
"a-15 is bare minimum US govt. found out to be lethal to human being" its like they are not discussing guns but about some chocolate bar or something.
It’s strange because the answer is so clear. How to stop gun violence? Get rid of guns. A shame that the US is so deluded that they need guns. Who taught you that? Such a violent country, put guns in that mixture, this is the result.
More than half of these people are not mature or intelligent enough to own a firearm. Please turn them in to your local police department.
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Why not make a self defense and de-escalation class mandatory to purchase firearms…
Clearly the solution to this issue is by arming everyone, children, babies, Neo-Nazi's etc……teachers, teenagers with attitude problems, manic depressives, criminal pyschopaths, i mean what could go wrong? it is their right after all, i just believe that all of these guns should be Muskets………
The 2nd amendment outlived its purpose. Just replace it with the right to access healthcare must not be infringed.
No person against guns has ever given a good argument
Cop shoulda spoke more.
"this isnt just an American problem" what …? it a massive American problem
A gun is a tool. Thank God there is Law Enforcement on this panel to explain how the law is enforced in the United States of America. Dysfunctional families are fertile ground for neglect, abuse, secrecy, addiction, or denial. In these family systems, children’s emotional needs go unmet because the parents’ needs take precedence. Across America, there are approximately 18.3 million children who live without a father in the home, comprising about 1 in 4 US children (Father Absence Statistics). The United States has the highest rate of children living in single-parent households of any nation in the world (Kramer, 2021). "A child that is not embraced by the village will burn it down to feel its warmth." – African Proverb
Thank you to all of the participants for a respectful discussion. Appreciate they are all gun owners / users, and it was not a discussion between pro-gun and anti-gun, but clearly these people still had very different views. Great video vice!
Jeez in what kind of 3rd world shithole they live to feel safe only with a gun, loool
I believe in your right just don't let the crazies get em.
The guy on the top left was just there to crap on gun owners.
Even if that fatass Italian mf in the suit had a 200 round LMG, with my training and fitness level, I’d still take him out and disarm him with a pocket knife, a gun won’t keep you safe 🤣🤣
Great debate they were all very logical and reasonable.
That black chick is dumb, she gets her right to defend herself from her ‘creator’
I wish she would have elaborated
As a black person in America that witnessed aflunent gun areas like Wellington,Fl and areas like the criminal world of nyc it is the community fault the criminal are just ignorant kids who feel left out and that there is no hope for them to prosper in there community no role models nobody cares about each other here while n Florida they make sure everyone around them is doing decent and look out for each other and there almost no personal disputes and everyone has a gun there we don’t have a gun issue we have a social disconnect between each other as humans that creates monsters or trouble individuals who then said could get a gun cuz I’m telling you now anyone could get acces to a gun if they really tried even when banned also growing up there’s a disconnect with the police we feel that they’re jobs are to protect in nyc but they harass and often try to escalate situations I had a cop tell me he wouldn’t reason before turning his body camera on
European here…the USA is messed up beyond belief. Systematically, financial distribution , security and culturally.
The only way out of this mess is to leave the country…just move out dont bother with these debates. The USA will still be the same for the upcoming centuries…you cannot save this country or change anythinf. It will take every single person in this countey to solve these issues and this is not how this country's system is structured. End of discussion. bye.